A celebration of the London bombings? |
| by Dr Strange |
2005-07-08 12:18 PM +0800 |
I hope not.
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Our show was definately NOT celebration of the London bombings. |
| by al - perth indy radio |
2005-07-08 6:10 PM +0800 |
No. We presented an overview of the activists participating in the G8 summit protests. We played bits n pieces from the radio.indymedia wire and deconstruced some of the media. We also looked into the reasons why people would protest the G8.
No celebrations of Thursday's carnage. I struggle to see why you'd link the two?
Respect
al
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chronologys a bit fuckey. |
| by shayne |
2005-07-08 6:32 PM +0800 |
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chronologys a bit fuckey |
| by shayne |
2005-07-08 6:33 PM +0800 |
How does one celebrate something that happened on thursday night, in a show the night before.
Silly billy
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Indymedia UK Statement on London bombs |
| by Perth Indy Radio Crew |
2005-07-08 6:52 PM +0800 |
Just pasting this here to show solidarity to the London IMC crew, and to provide an idea of how/what IMC crews may respond to this. Indymedia is not a haven for terrorism. AT ALL. Perth Indymedia does not condone and certainly does NOT celebrate the London attacks - al
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/07/317293.html
Short statement on the bombs in London today:
"Indymedia UK stands in solidarity with all the victims of today's horrific attacks in London. We share the disgust felt by all about these acts and their perpetrators, our thoughts are with the victims and their families. We are also acutely aware that these events will be exploited by the most reactionary elements of the British media and political establishment for their own selfish purposes.
We are particularly concerned about a possible backlash against Britain's Muslim community as we saw following 9/11 in the USA. We urge all activists involved in progressive politics to do everything they can to stop this from happening. Now is the time to be building bridges between all communities as we have seen with the anti-war movement. Don't feel helpless, do something.
We will continue to give a voice to all who have an opinion on these events and have little or no voice in the mainstream media. Our usual editorial guidelines apply.
IMC'ista, 07.07.2005 16:15
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So what if individual Indykids are happy with the attacks |
| by |
2005-07-10 8:17 AM +0800 |
If they want to celebrate it, it is no different to redneck talkback listerners cheering on shockjocks who crack fats over US airforce bombing raids.
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uh no... |
| by shayne |
2005-07-10 1:20 PM +0800 |
I dont think ANY indy kid has said they are happy with the attack. Stop making stuff up.
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Stop speaking on behalf of everyone Shayne |
| by Indifferent Indy Kid |
2005-07-10 2:24 PM +0800 |
While I am not "happy" about the attack..... I am not unhappy about them either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_April_2004_Basra_bombs
The world didn't given a fuck about the poor folk of Basra.
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On a limb to speak the things unsaid |
| by Brother_X |
2005-07-10 3:53 PM +0800 |
There is a lot to be said about this issue BUT:
It goes without saying, that the Perth Indymedia Collective in general cannot and does NOT condone, support or in any way celebrate ANY form of violent terrorism. Especially the attacks on London. Nor would we be condoning the Acts of war perpetrated by the Coalition of the willing in Iraq, Afgahnistan or eleswhere.
We are absolutely "unhappy" about what went down in London on Thursday. I personally have family there, as well as IMCistas. And if anyone in the broad Perth IMC group does think we should be supporting such barbarism then they do NOT stand for the IMC principles of unity we struggle to maintain daily. And they do NOT belong to the collective.
To be indifferent about such things is incongruous to the things Indymedia is passionate about.
Nobody with a scerrick of human decency would be "happy" about the sort of random acts of blatant murder carried out by extremists last week.
Whoever you are, stop pretending to speak for the Perth Indymedia Collective.
How about contributing some media yourself.
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Lucky we don't have relatives in Baghdad, Basra or Falluja |
| by |
2005-07-10 4:41 PM +0800 |
The Iraqi resistance use car bombs in these cities regulary as a means of resiting their enemy and occupiers. Civilians get killed all the time (brown civilians not our English kin back in old blighty).
The outrage that some exhibit towards particular acts of resistance (you call it terrorism) is selective and in my humble opinion is the worse type of racism (therefore in violation of our preciously held IMC principles).
Killing the civilians of your oppresser has long been an accepted tactic amongst regular and guerilla armies.
All that has happened in recent days is that the war has been brought home to London.
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But you are not saying something we don't know. |
| by o_X |
2005-07-10 5:30 PM +0800 |
Indeed, the Iraqi resistance use car bombs etc, and kill civilians at random. I don't condone that.
Personally, I couldnt give a toss what colour our "kin" is in the UK. And I have friends in Iraq. I don't want them killed or maimed either.
Violence, and killing of ANYONE is not the accepted tactic of Indymedia collectives. Full Stop. We, and I am speaking as a member of the Perth IMC, without consultation or consensus, that we would FULLY CONDEMN this terrorism [Yes! "Terrorism" - because that is precisely what these attacks are - see a dictionary near you].
BUT - Don't call yourself an Indymedia representative, if you condone such tactics as blowing up folks on the Tube, or in the streets of Falujah. Or any form of violence for that matter. We're just not about that shit. I agree that the Iraqi insurgence have grounds for war, but I cannot and do not condone it.
By your comments, it seems you obviously have no idea of why we built this IMC community in the first place.
How about contributing some independent media, eg some news about local/global issues?
Write an article instead of complaining about what an IMC may or may not believe in.
Anonymous, I can safely say, that if you reject our general IMC Principles then you are not welcome in the group at all.
xxx
IMC Principles Of Unity
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/PrinciplesOfUnity
Indymedia FAQ
http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Global/FrequentlyAskedQuestionEn
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I dont reject the IMC Principles of Unity |
| by |
2005-07-10 6:16 PM +0800 |
I contribute to Indymedia so therefore I am an Indykid.
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a brief ed comment |
| by a perth indy editor fella |
2005-07-10 6:23 PM +0800 |
By that logic - cool. Good onya. Keep up your input. And thanks for contributing your independent media. But don't pretend to represent the collective. Thanks.
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No worries |
| by |
2005-07-11 5:37 AM +0800 |
As long as the Perth Indymedia collective stops pretending they represent the broader activist movement.
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Perth indy doesnt "represent" anyone. Represent yourself instead! |
| by indy ed |
2005-07-11 12:38 PM +0800 |
Perth indy doesnt represent anyone, nor does it want to.
Thats what political parties do, not radical news media. We'd rather let people represent themselves.
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I fully agree |
| by X - another indy media editor |
2005-07-11 12:55 PM +0800 |
Perhaps the main point to be taken here is the notion that Indymedia is about contribution of YOUR media articles - that YOU are the media; that YOU tell the stories; that instead of corporate tainted or government news-media, YOU tell YOUR story, or the stories of those fighting for social justice in a capitalist-driven global world.
Some folk seem to treat this site as a place for complaining ABOUT Indymedia, when anyone who shares our ideals is welcome to join and be part of the editorial/organisational community.
So yes indeed IMCs don't represent anyone. You represent YOU - in your voice and not that of the corporations, political parties or governments themselves. So in other words - please contribute your stories. The more the better.
Indymedia is a facilitation device for the multifarious voices of dissent. And not a vehicle for sole representation.
yrs in anti-corporate media solidarity
"X"
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All about love |
| by Stanley |
2006-02-26 12:37 AM +0800 |
Thank you for being generous with your resources... I hope that you will receive more than you need for your time and energy. Keep at work!
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